How to get out of the friend zone

kickingTires56

kickingTires56

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I feel as if every young man has this conversation once (or several times) in his life.

Getting out of the friend-zone.

In dating we all know what it means. A young man may pine over a woman and see them together, dream about it, want it and idolize that girl.

But then she says, "I don't feel that way about you. You're more of a friend."

I'm curious to know what advice you would give someone that told you about this problem. I had a relative not too long ago who said that this girl he crushed on didn't seem to like him back. I told him, you just have to get over her and find someone else.

But as you can guess, men who are in love don't want to hear that. They feel hurt at those words. To someone deep in the friend zone, it's their worst nightmare coming true. She doesn't feel that way about me. I can't go on without her. What can I do to win her back?

Can he win her over? Should he win her over? Is there something we're missing, when we discuss this "friend zone?"

Looking forward to this discussion.
 
I believe certain lessons in life are best learned by the individual. These are the moments that help one come of age, and grow up to be men and women of character.

It is very harsh when you are rejected by someone you adore.

But my perspective is this.

Even if you love this person, and want them to feel something for you, is it *possible* that this relationship is just a bad idea? Maybe you won't realize that today. But how about a year from now? Or five years from now, when things get really tough?

So if a girl is telling you, look, we're going to have problems together. I don't love you enough. I don't feel attraction to you. We're going to have problems staying together.

Do you doubt her?

Isn't it a sign of respect and maturity to say, "I trust your judgment. And you're right?"
 
You are far too kind, pablo. I don't think the men you're offering advice to are capable of appreciating it.

I really believe a lot of men feel entitled to just "take" women, and convince and or bully them into a sexual relationship.

Nice guys are the worst. They feel that they can buy a woman's affection, and usually with the most basic niceties and gifts. Meals, mall shopping...

And of course, the "time investment." I've invested all this time in you because I thought..."

And when a woman actually shares her feelings and tells you that it's not right, how upset do these man-babies get?

That's when their true feelings come out. The hate, the misogyny. The patriarchal idea that women owe men something, regardless of how we feel.
 
MenITrustFan said:
You are far too kind, pablo. I don't think the men you're offering advice to are capable of appreciating it.

I really believe a lot of men feel entitled to just "take" women, and convince and or bully them into a sexual relationship.

Nice guys are the worst. They feel that they can buy a woman's affection, and usually with the most basic niceties and gifts. Meals, mall shopping...

And of course, the "time investment." I've invested all this time in you because I thought..."

And when a woman actually shares her feelings and tells you that it's not right, how upset do these man-babies get?

That's when their true feelings come out. The hate, the misogyny. The patriarchal idea that women owe men something, regardless of how we feel.
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Way to answer the question! So your answer is basically just die you terrible male, you.

Anyone want to share some actual ways to get out of the friend zone?

I have one very basic tip. Do not be afraid of sexual tension. Do not be afraid of eye-fucking your crush. Do not be afraid to joke about dating, or sex, or just making her see you as a sexual being.

Too many nice guys fall into the trap of giving off platonic energy, so as not to scare her away. But the sexual attraction IS what catches her interest in the first place.

So don't apologize for being a man. Don't apologize for your desires as a man. Be an alpha male and be proud of it, no matter what other people think.
 
I sort of agree with you, Jughead and you, MenITrust, but for different reasons.

Back to the OP's question.

The only way to get out of the friend zone is to show yourself above and beyond what other men can do for her.

This is where things get complicated. You have to know her very well. What does she want? What is she looking for in a husband/boyfriend/fling?

How can you show and demonstrate that you have the qualities she wants, and that you are head and shoulders above the competition?

Some men just like to degrade other men, in hopes of being seen as superior.

But how about doing something ELSE, you know, something else that other men just wouldn't do?

Show her that you like/love her more than everyone else, and that you want her more than anyone else.

You're right, too many people play it safe. But women do love it when you do something out of the ordinary, proving to her that you want/love/need her more than everyone else does! That's romance to me.
 
You guys are way overthinking this.

You want to get out of the friend zone?

Have sex with her best friend, sister, ex-best friend, someone she knows.

Subtly brag about it.

Instant change in her disposition.

You can thank me later. Send me Bitcoins pls
 
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